A New Theory Of Quantum Entangled Morality—Or—Why Are Republicans More Immoral than Democrats?

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Posted on: » Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:33 pm #11

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Right, science will lead the way. It will be interesting to see where this goes.
Alfred, that is correct. I think science will solve the mystery of God. As a spiritual person, I do not see this as diminishing the role of God in any respect. After all, God did make science. Quantum enta...

Re: A New Theory Of Quantum Entangled Morality-Or-Why Are Republicans More Immoral than Democrats?

Post by Doctor A » Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:33 pm

So, is quantum entanglement the key to unlocking the relationship between our consciousness and that of the universal consciousness? In other words, is quantum entanglement the mechanism to understanding God? Traditional science has been looking at the interaction between consciousness and the spiritual world. Here are some such mechanisms they have perused with little success:

1) A review of the God Gene and the Spirit Molecule.

A) From Wikipedia

Main article: God gene
Geneticist Dean Hamer has suggested that a particular allele of the VMAT2 gene correlates with spirituality using data from a smoking survey, which included questions intended to measure "self-transcendence". Hamer performed the spirituality study on the side, independently of the National Cancer Institute smoking study. His findings were published in the mass-market book The God Gene: How Faith Is Hard-Wired Into Our Genes.[11][12] Hamer himself notes that VMAT2 plays at most a minor role in influencing spirituality.[13] Furthermore, Hamer's claim that the VMAT2 gene contributes to spirituality is controversial.[13] Hamer's study has not been published in a peer reviewed journal and a reanalysis of the correlation demonstrates that it is not statistically significant.[13][14]

The vesicular monoamine transporter 2 (VMAT2) also known as solute carrier family 18 member 2 (SLC18A2) is a protein that in humans is encoded by the SLC18A2 gene.[5] VMAT2 is an integral membrane protein that transports monoamines???particularly neurotransmitters such as dopamine, norepinephrine, serotonin, and histamine???from cellular cytosol into synaptic vesicles.[6] In nigrostriatal pathway and mesolimbic pathway dopamine-releasing neurons, VMAT2 function is also necessary for the vesicular release of the neurotransmitter GABA.[7]
B) From: Q4LT
Link http://q4lt.com/the-god-gene-vmat2-melatonin
September 20, 2015
The ???God??? Gene Meets the ???Spirit??? Molecule?
Dr. Dean Hamer from the National Cancer Institute published a book in 2005 titled ???The God Gene: How Faith Is Hardwired into Our Genes???. In this book he identifies a specific gene named ???VMAT2??? as predisposing humans to spiritual/mystical beliefs and experiences.
The Wiki summary of the ???God??? gene rationale is as follows:
???The God gene hypothesis is based on a combination of behavioral genetic, neurobiological and psychological studies. The major arguments of the hypothesis are: (1) spirituality can be quantified by psychometric measurements; (2) the underlying tendency to spirituality is partially heritable; (3) part of this heritability can be attributed to the gene VMAT2; (4) this gene acts by altering monoamine levels; and (5) spiritual individuals are favored by natural selection because they are provided with an innate sense of optimism, the latter producing positive effects at either a physical or psychological level.???
2) The spirit molecule
The theory that the brain produces its own psychedelic compound provokes pop-culture enthusiasm and scientific controversy.
From: Aeon
By Graham St John
Generating controversy, some began to propose that this powerful psychedelic drug could be produced by the human body (and indeed the brain) in sufficient quantities to enable a natural psychedelic experience. The conjecture that we could produce enough of our own, endogenous DMT to induce altered states of consciousness without ingesting any chemical compound generated enthusiasm, and these unproven claims departed the clinic to lead independent lives in popular culture at large.
Speculation on the psychedelic efficacy of the pineal has reawakened interest in the organ. People have championed the capacity of the pineal to arouse previously dormant powers of perception, especially those associated with vision: clairvoyance, seeing auras, and being awakened to information from other dimensions. Appealing to spiritual practitioners, parapsychologists and filmmakers alike, the readouts from Strassman???s study impressed those eager for neurochemical explanations of extrasensory abilities and extraordinary states of consciousness.
For those who wish to go down this psychadelic rabbit hole and learn more about the spirit molecule, I recommend the following, https://aeon.co/essays/could-the-brain- ... c-compound

Also, from Wikipedia:
N,N-Dimethyltryptamine (DMT or N,N-DMT) is a tryptamine molecule which occurs in many plants and animals.[3] It can be consumed as a powerful psychedelic drug and has historically been prepared by various cultures for ritual and healing purposes.[4] Rick Strassman labeled it "the spirit molecule".[5] In most countries, DMT is illegal.
DMT has a relatively short duration of action, intense effects and rapid onset. For that reason, DMT was known as the "businessman's trip" during the 1960s in the United States, as a user could access the full depth of a psychedelic experience in considerably less time than with other substances such as LSD or magic mushrooms.[6] DMT can be inhaled, injected, or orally ingested, and its effects depend on the dose. When inhaled or injected, the effects last a short period of time: about 5 to 15 minutes. Effects can last 3 hours or more when orally ingested along with an MAOI, such as the ayahuasca vine in the traditional ayahuasca brew of many native Amazonian tribes.[7] DMT can produce vivid mystical experiences involving euphoria and dynamic hallucinations of geometric forms, higher intelligences, extraterrestrials, elves, and God.[8]
Given the paltry results of the above science, I am much more inclined to look at the work of Penrose and Hameroff as a means to bridge the gap between the physical and conscious aspects of humans and that of the spiritual dimensions. The research points in the direction of cellular microtubules, acting as mini-quantum computer with a modus operandi of quantum entanglement, being an inter-phase between us and God.

Throughout human history there has always been barriers thought to be impassable. Perhaps the concept that we will never understand God is about to fall.
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Re: A New Theory Of Quantum Entangled Morality???Or???Why Are Republicans More Immoral than Democrats?

Post by Jessica » Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:16 pm

I found some interesting information about using science as a basis of morality. But more on this later.

Recently I read an interesting article with the title, Can Morality Be Engineered In Artificial General Intelligence Systems? in the magazine Analytics India by Abhijeet Katte published May 10th, 2018. https://analyticsindiamag.com/can-moral ... e-systems/

The author presents some of the hazards of this fledgling field when he says,
Which brings us to the question – can morality be engineered in AGI system through design and code? Can moral rules be programmed into AGI systems? According to Goertzel, “AGI is a highly complex, highly dynamic self-organizing system”. Subsequently, this program can even end up deleting the moral rules one programmed in, or it may reinterpret the terms.
The article then goes on to addresses some of the core questions addressed in AGI Research which are listed below:
Experts predict that a technological singularity caused by an AGI may lead to existential risks as well as risks of substantial suffering for the human race. Some clusters of problems appear in multiple research agendas and can be used as design guides for development of AGI:

Value specification: How do we get an AGI to work towards the right goals?

Reliability: How can we make an agent that keeps pursuing the goals we have designed it with?

Corrigibility: If we get something wrong in the design or construction of an agent, will the agent cooperate in us trying to fix it?

Security: How to design AGIs that are robust to adversaries and adversarial environments?

Safe learning: AGIs should avoid making fatal mistakes during the learning phase.

Intelligibility: How can we build agent’s whose decisions we can understand?

Societal consequences: AGI will have substantial legal, economic, political, and military consequences. How should we manage the societal consequences?
To augment and add to the mix above, The Singularity Hub published "4 New Human Rights for When Our Brains Are Hooked Up to Computers" By Edd Gent -May 01, 2017 https://singularityhub.com/2017/05/01/4 ... 1d1iyd3g90
The human-machine mind meld is just around the corner if you believe the buzz coming out of Silicon Valley these days. But neuroethicists worry the technology poses a threat to the last bastion of privacy, our innermost thoughts, and have suggested tweaks to our fundamental human rights to protect that privacy.
“While the body can easily be subject to domination and control by others, our mind, along with our thoughts, beliefs and convictions, are to a large extent beyond external constraint,” they write. “Yet, with advances in neural engineering, brain imaging and pervasive neurotechnology, the mind might no longer be such an unassailable fortress.”
1. The Right to Cognitive Liberty

The first proposed new right is the right to “Cognitive Liberty,” which states that people have the right to use emerging neurotechnology to modify their mental activity. But it also protects the right to refuse to use it in situations such as an employer requiring workers to take advantage of devices that would improve their performance.

2. The Right to Mental Privacy

Second on the list is the right to “Mental Privacy,” which would protect people from third parties accessing data about their mental activity collected by a neurotechnology device without their consent.

The impulse for this protection is obvious; tech giants are already hoovering up huge amounts of our behavioral data in their efforts to divine our innermost desires and sell us stuff. Brain data could let them bypass this guesswork and precisely tailor our online experiences in pursuit of their goals.

The authors debate whether this right should be absolute or relative, though. In certain situations, allowing the state to access the thoughts of criminals and terrorists could have obvious benefits for society. But the researchers suggest this could erode the already well-established right not to incriminate oneself, which is widely recognized across the democratic world and enshrined in the Fifth Amendment.

3. The Right to Mental Integrity

The last two rights are intertwined and deal with the emerging ability to not just record mental activity, but directly influence it. The right to “Mental Integrity” effectively protects against people hacking brain implants to hijack or interfere with their mental processes or erase memories.

4. The Right to Psychological Continuity

The right to “Psychological Continuity” deals with the vaguer notion of attempts to alter someone’s personality or identity, either through similar brain hacking approaches or more subtle ones like neuromarketing, which can involve companies using insights from neuroscience to try and alter unconscious behavior and attitudes in consumers.
These two articles prodded me to go to quora.com and look up "What are morals based upon?" https://www.quora.com/What-are-morals-based-upon

There was a whole string of answers but the one that caught my attention was the very last one. This is because it reminded me about Doctor A's theory of morality based upon pain altering our conscious connection with the universal entangled reality we live in,

Mikko Pöntinen, Physics student, freediver
Answered Feb 25, 2015
Morals are, or at least should be, based on the suffering and well-being of conscious creatures. I recommend Sam Harris's book The Moral Landscape.

I then took his advice and looked up the book by Sam Harris he recommended and found in Wikipedia,
The Moral Landscape
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The Moral Landscape: How Science Can Determine Human Values
Author Sam Harris
Published 2010 (Free Press)

The Moral Landscape: How Science Can Determine Human Values is a book by Sam Harris published in 2010. In it, he promotes a science of morality and argues that many thinkers have long confused the relationship between morality, facts, and science. He aims to carve a third path between secularists who say morality is subjective (e.g. moral relativists), and religionists who say that morality is given by God and scripture. Harris contends that the only moral framework worth talking about is one where "morally good" things pertain to increases in the "well-being of conscious creatures".
Again, this very much ties in with how I interpreted Doctor A's post about morality being based upon the science of quantum entanglement. This is especially true as it relates to pain and its dis-associative effects regarding one's conscious contact with the entangled universe. I think that pain decreases the "well-being of conscious creatures" as Harris uses for his basis of morality. Certainly, within my own personal experience, pain has been a major factor regarding my well-being and hence, my own conscious contact with the universe. My experience includes the fact that it is difficult to hold a constant contact with a higher power when I am in pain, and this makes me suffer because the pain brings me back to thoughts of the pain itself. Seen in another light, I am less loving to others when I am in pain.

As for the science relating pain to consciousness and quantum entanglement, there is the new and growing field exploring quantum entanglement in biological systems. From other posts on this website regarding the current research, I learned how birds navigate through an entangled mechanism and how photosynthesis works in our entangled world. I am sure more will be revealed.

Although I have not read the book, I would hope someone who has read it would chime in on the matter.
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